Davis and Shaw Families of North Carolina
 
John Baptist Shaw Sr
Male 1750 - 1816

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  • Birth  1750  Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • DAR Patriot Index Part III says he was born in VA page 2630
    Gender  Male 
    Alternate Birth  1755  North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • info from familysearch.org
    Land  LATE 1760  Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • several land deeds between Timothy and John Baptist Shaw (information from Howard Allen Jr of Austin Tx via letter Jan 12 1992)
    Appointed  5 Jan 1765  Johnston County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Constable in the District of Captian Kimbrows Company
    Court Order  21 Oct 1766  Johnston County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • received 40 shillings for his expenses and troubles in carrying John Bailey a prisoner to Halifax County North Carolina
    Land  1768  Johnston County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Deed: Robert Grady and wife Mary sold to John Baptist Shaw in Johnston Co., NC 1768, db 1, p.195.
    Marriage  3 Dec 1771  Raleigh Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Land  Jun 1779  Wake County Court North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • The deed of David Brassfield to Richard Ship was proved by oath of John Baptist Shaw (info taken from Brasfield-Brassfield Genealogies page 12)
    Military Service  1781 
    • Revolutionary War Private; Light Horse Service
    Census  1790  Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • with his family which consisted of three males over 16 years of age, two under 16, six females and twelve slaves. (Clark, William "North Carolina State Records, Vol. XXVI p. 1170)
    Census  1800  Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family 
    • Will list a Capt James Jones m Charity Alston
    Will  16 Sep 1815  Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • info taken from Brasfield-Brassfield Genealogies By Annabelle Cox McAllister, Edward Nevill McAllister page 663
    Will Probate  Feb 1816  Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Died  10 Feb 1816  Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • according to the DAR Patriot Index Centennial Edition part III
    Family  19 Nov 1988  Austin Travis County Texas Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • I have a letter from a Hudson Allen Jr to my grandmother Mary Helen Shaw Hudgins that says "According to my records, you are descended from the family of John Baptist Shaw (1750-1816) and wife Frances McElory of Wake County. My line comes from William Shaw (1752-1830) of Wake County and later of Wilson County Tenn. The above John B Shaw and William Shaw were brothers, sons of Timothy Shaw of Lunenburg County Virginia."
    Family  12 Dec 2009 
    • Rita also says that Joseph Shaw and Ruth Derby are John Baptist Shaw's parents and that he had brothers William Shaw (b 1735 same as Chuck Shaw said), Zachariah Shaw (b 1754 same date I already had), Gabirel Shaw (b 1755 same date I already had)
    Family  12 Dec 2009 
    • I've come up with his parents being Joseph Shaw and Ruth Derby. I'm still in the process of searching records. (dlw91@mac.com)
    Land 
    • John's (Frances' brother) son, Samuel, was appointed administrator of his estate. John apparently also still had land in Wake Co., NC which was handled by his brother-in-law, John Baptist Shaw (Frances' husband)
    Military Service 
    • I had always heard that John Baptist was a captain in the NC militia during the revolution. (HJ Shaw)
    Record ID Number  MH:I28 
    _UID  67A2DEF1-72D5-4ABA-878A-A052AFCF1CB4 
    _UPD  24 DEC 2011 23:26:02 GMT-5 
    Person ID  I27  Shaw Family of North Carolina
    Last Modified  20 Feb 2014 
     
    Father  Joseph Shaw,   b. Abt 1715, Maryland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1785, Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Record ID Number  MH:F21 
    _UID  4509C034-534D-4082-95BA-D22DD182FD6B 
    _UPD  27 NOV 2010 16:20:32 GMT-5 
    Family ID  F20  Group Sheet
     
    Family  Francis "Frankie" Mackelroy,   b. 1749, Johnston County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft Sep 1815, Wake County or Johnston Coutny North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  3 Dec 1771  Raleigh Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Frances last name spelled McKilroy in North Carolina marriage collection1741-2004
    Bondsman 
    • John Humphreys
    Witnesses 
    • John Rice and Auinetion McElory (brother of Frances)
    Record ID Number  MH:F10 
    _UID  A82D532D-0CE1-4ADC-AD8C-6AEB64B80EE0 
    _UPD  19 DEC 2009 23:40:04 GMT-5 
    Notes 
    • Groom: John Baptis Shaw
      Bride: Francis McKelory
      Bond Date: 03 Dec 1771
      County: Wake
      Record #: 03 471
      Bondsman: John Humphrys; Avington McKelroy
      Witness: John Rice
      Bond #: 000157804
      North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868
      Avonton (Avington) was a brother to Frances.
    Children 
     1. John Baptist Shaw Jr,   b. 16 Apr 1774, North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Jul 1848, North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Simpson Shaw,   b. Abt 1772, Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. Elizabeth "Betsy" Shaw,   b. 14 Apr 1776, Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 May 1847, Maury County Tennessee Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. William M "Wiley" Shaw,   b. 1783, Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Feb 1843, Somerville Fayette County Tennesee Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. Catherine "Katy" McElory Shaw,   b. 22 Apr 1781, North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Feb 1860, Tennessee Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. Mary "Polly" Shaw,   b. Abt 1783, Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location
     7. Frances "Fanny" Shaw,   b. 8 Feb 1782, Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location
     8. Sarah "Sally" Shaw,   b. Abt 1787, Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location
     9. Allie "Ailley" "Ali" Shaw,   b. 1790, Wake County North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1849, Noxubee County Mississippi Find all individuals with events at this location
    Family ID  F9  Group Sheet
     
  • Marriage Certificates Shaw Sr, John Baptist and Francis "Frankie" Mackelroy
     
  • Notes 
    • Wake County was formed in 1770 from Cumberland, Johnston and Orange Counties.

      Shaw
      Clan Shaw is a Scottish clan, part of the Chattan Confederation and formerly a sept of Clan MacKintosh.
      The Shaw family found themselves constantly beset by their larger neighbour the Clan Comyn/Cumming. They sought support by becoming allies with the powerful Clan Donald through marriage. Later they also became part of the Chattan Confederation as a sept of the Clan MacKintosh and then later they became a clan of their own.
      The origin of the name is derived from the old highland Gaelic name of 'Sithech' meaning 'wolf'. the lowland Gaelic spelling is 'sceaga' meaning small wood or thicket. The Gaelic names for the clan are Na Siach, or Mhic Sheaghd. It is interesting to note that the Shaws are never referred to in Gaelic as 'Clan Shaw', but simply as 'the Shaws'.
      Definition: A thicket, small wood, or clearing in the trees; dweller by the wood.
      Alternate Surname Spellings: SHEACH
    • From REMNANTS OF FORMER GLORY
      pgs. 492-493
      by Wallace Alexander Jones
      "John B. Shaw of Wake County, NC was born in Ireland or of Irish parentage in America. In 1781 he was serving as a private in the Light Horse Cavalry of the Revolutionary Army. "Light Horse Service, John B. Shaw, Private ---1781" (Clark, William "North Carolina State Records" Vol. XVII, p. 1056) In 1790 he was living with his family in Cake County and the
      family consisted of three males over 16 years of age, two under 16, six females and twelve slaves. (Clark, William "North Carolina State Records, Vol. XXVI p. 1170) "

      "John B. Shaw had at least one brother, Zachariah Shaw. Zachariah Shaw and wife were both born between 1750 and 1760. They moved with others of the family to Gibson County, TN and both died there between 1830 and 1840. ("United States Census, Gibson County, Tn. 1830, 1840) On April 1, 1832 Alsey Mitchell Shaw wrote to his cousin, Egbert Haywood Shaw, and told him about "Uncle Zachariah getting a fall from his horse yesterday which will cripple him for life." (This letter is in possession of Harry Samuel Shaw) I have an accurate list of the uncles and aunts of Alsey Mitchell Shaw and Zachariah is not among them, therefore, Zachariah was in reality his Great Uncle, a brother of John B. Shaw."
    • The Said Ailey SHAW was the child of John Baptist SHAW born on (c) - - 1750 at VA died at Wake Co NC on (a) 10 - Feb - 1816 and his ( 1st ) wife Frankie McKelroy born on (c) - - 1751-1754 at _______________ died at _______________ on (p) - - 1815 married on 3 - Dec - 1771
    • Groom: John Baptis Shaw
      Bride: Francis McKelory
      Bond Date: 03 Dec 1771
      County: Wake
      Record #: 03 471
      Bondsman: John Humphrys; Avington McKelroy
      Witness: John Rice
      Bond #: 000157804
      North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868
      Avonton (Avington) was a brother to Frances.

      North Carolina Marriages, 1759-1979
      Groom's Name: John Baptis Shaw
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      Bride's Name: Frances Mckelroy
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      Marriage Date: 03 Dec 1771
      Marriage Place: Wake,North Carolina
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      Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M51603-8
      System Origin: North Carolina-ODM
      Source Film Number: 6330319
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    • Timothy Shaw, who first appears on a tax roll for Lunenburg County, Va. in 1750. By 1760's he is found
      living in Johnston County, N.C. in the portion which later became Wake County. He also states, that he has found many land dealing between Timothy and John Baptist Shaw, William Shaw, Zachariah Shaw, and Gabriel Shaw. In Fact, Timothy deeded land to Zachariah and William Shaw both on the same day in 1778. Using the following facts
      Mr. Allen states why he believes Timothy to be the father.
      1. Timothy Shaw was older and appears on records first.
      2. Timothy Shaw has land dealings with all the above
      younger Shaws, deeding land to each of them.
      3. Timothy's land adjoines the other Shaws land.
    • From: ncreeves
      There is a John Baptist Shaw residing in Johnston Co and Wake Co. leaving a will in Wake Co. A booklet that I found
      But the copy I made will have to be rechecked against the original. This was a booklet in the N.C. Archives owned by John Baptist Shaw. This document also lists John B. Shaw son of a John B. Shaw who sold land on Neuse River on Little Lick Creek Wake Co. (Now Durham Co.) This area is about where the Raleigh Durham Airport in Wake Co. is. or right on the boundry of Wake and Durham Co.It also lists the slaves cared for by John B. Shaw. as well as medicine recipies and dated 11 June 14817
    • From: Gritzbaugh, Sherry Gresham,
      John Baptist Shaw and Franky McElroy were married in North Carolina in 1771. They had at least nine children. He served with the Light Horse Calvery during the Revolutionary War. He died in Wake County, North Carolina, ca. 1816. His daughter, Ailey Shaw (ca. 1790-ca. 1850), married 1) Major Brasfield and had five children. She married 2) Matthew Lynn in 1822 in Wake County, North Carolina.
    • Betty Stokes Nov 8, 2009
      LAST WILL & TESTAMENT of - JOHN BAPTIST SHAW
      Dated: September 16, 1815 - Wake County, North Carolina

      In the name of God, Amen, I John Baptist SHAW, of the county of Wake, State of North Carolina, being sick and weak in body but of perfect mind and sound memory (Blessed be God) do make and ordain this and no other to be my last Will and Testament this 16th day of September, 1815 in and following:

      ITEM: I lend to my wife, Frankey SHAW during her natural life or widowhood, the tract of land I purchased of Cary WARREN adjacent the lands of Lewis MOORE and others containing 108 acres, more or less. I do lend her and like manner as above mentioned 10 negroes OTHO, DICK, CATO, BILLY, LUCY, ISABEL, TOM, YOUNG, BECK,Isabell's children. VIOLET, TEMPEY's child. ____ NINA's child; 1 bay horse called Dirk, a bay filly called Phosnea, a saddle and bridle, 3 feather beds and furniture, all my household and furniture not here after divided. 25 gallons of ____ my cart and 2 young ____. 1/3 part of my stock of cattle, including the work ______ 1/3 part of my stock of sheep, and 1.6 part of my hogs and as much of the corn, wheat and bacon on hand and as many of my working______as shall be thought sufficient by my executor for the use of the plantation. I, also devise her the use of the plantation whereon I now live until it be sold and not to be _____ __al__ until the corps be finished or the 25th of December after. I so, lend her 3 ____ of my - hogshead and _ask until until the land is

      ITEM: I give and devise unto my son, Simpson the _____ 2 neggoes JACK and DICK, called LITTLE DICK and his heirs forever.

      ITEM: I give and devise unto my son John SHAW 3 negroes; NATHAN, RICHARD and DANIEL t0 him and his heirs forever.

      ITEM: I give and devise unto my son, William SHAW 5 negroes; HARRY, KITT, BILLY, BLANCH, BECK and his child PETER, to him and his heirs forever.

      ITEM: I give and devise unto my Elizabeth PERRY, 1 negroe man named . 1 negroe woman named PATT and all her increase to her and her heirs forever.

      ITEM; I give and devise unto my daughter Caty JONES, 1 negro man named PHIL, 1 negro woman named ESTHER and all her increase to her and her heirs forever.

      ITEM: I give and devise unto my daughter, Polly MORGAN, I negro man named 1 negro woman named _____BECK and all her increase I also, give her after the death or marriage of my wife Frankey SHAW, 1 negro woman named ISABEL, to her heirs forever.

      ITEM: I give and devise unto my daughter Fanny HIGH, 1 negro man named NED, I negro woman named ______.

      ITEM: I give and devise unto my daughter, Sally WARREN 1 negro boy MINGO, 1 negro woman named HANNAH and all her increase, 1 negro woman named TEMPY to her and her heirs forever. I also, give her after the death, or marriage of my wife, Frankey SHAW this tract of land I purchased of Cary WARREN, lying and being in the county aforesaid on the waters of little Barton Creek
      PAGE 2130 ( Will continued )
      adjacent the lands or Lewis MOORE and others containing 108 acres, more or less, her husband Nathaniel WARREN., her heirs to pay unto each of my other children the sum of $ 33.00 1/3 Simpson SHAW — John SHAW — Willie SHAW — Elizabeth PERRY — Caty JONES — Polly MORGAN — Fanny HIGH. ITEM: I give and devise unto my daughter Allie BRASFIELD, 5 negroes.

      ITEM: My wish and desire that my negro woman PHOEBE, NINA, and SELAH, 3 feather beds, beadsteads and furniture be sold together without the residue of my stock of hogs, horses, cattle and sheep. Crop of every description, 1 waggon, and 4 pairs of geese,____ chair and ____ Walnut chairs, 1 large shott(?)hogsheads and casks and all the rest of the perishable part of my estate. etc.
      signed: John Baptist SHAW
    • From Charles H. Shaw, III, CPL
      Hope you're still looking for info on these Wake Cty, NC Shaws - I only get to these personal genealogy projects infrequently. I am a Mississippi Shaw descended from these lines. We've been trying to unravel the numerous brothers and/ or cousins as well as incorrect associations with Cape Fear Highlanders in North Carolina a long time. Some of John Baptist Shaw's children, Samuel Hugh Shaw and Aley Shaw Brasfield-Lynn, were "the cousins" living in Noxubee County, MS. There is alot of oral history such as the story of "The Four Brothers" and a couple of family history documents you'd be interested in seeing. We are also trying to get the Shaw DNA Project rolling in order to deconflict many of the multiple Shaw lines in VA, NC, SC as well as validate some of the oral stories which appear to be true. The DNA results were surprising and useful. We need more male participants for Y-DNA tracing. My Shaw, Bagwell, Jones, Malone, Irwin, Merrell, and other lines all lived close to one another on the Neuse River at Big Lick Creek after migrating from PA and VA. I went to the John Baptist Shaw Cemetery and Daniel Bagwell Cemetery in Wake and Durham Cty, NC as a teenager before the dam/ reservoir were built. I tried to go back to see the John Baptist Shaw Cemetery 2 years ago but the new owners have everything posted and Bagwell was moved - site under water now. Here is what we have on our family line thusfar:
      0) COL Charles Houston Shaw, III, CPL (USA/ GRD, PNM, SWA) m. Maria Elena Almanza 1990 in Soledad, Monterey Cty, CA
      B: 07 October 1957 in Louisville, Winston County, MS
      D: NA

      1) SGT Charles Houston Shaw, Jr. (USA/ Korea) m. Deliah A. Hunt 1955 in Ackerman, Choctaw Cty, MS
      B: 01 May 1927 in Shaw Springs, Winston County, MS
      D: 20 August 1992 in Meridian, Lauderdale County, MS

      2) F1C Charles Huston Shaw, Sr. (USN/ WWI) m. Lucy M. Wyley 1925 in Gum Branch, Winston Cty, MS
      B: 22 October 1894 in Fentress, Choctaw County, MS
      D: 26 June 1969 in Louisville, Winston County, MS

      3) Thomas Washington Shaw m. Martha Almeda Malone 1892 in Ackerman, Choctaw Cty, MS
      B: 14 November 1868 in Fentress, Choctaw County, MS
      D: 27 November 1920 in Ackerman, Choctaw County, MS

      4) 4th SGT Samuel Houghston Shaw (K/15th MS INF, CSA/ Civil War) m. Margaret Olivia Fulcher 1867 in Choctaw Cty, MS
      B: 1841 in Shaw-Fulcher Crossing, Choctaw County, MS
      D: 1899 in Fentress, Choctaw County, MS

      5) CAPT James Washington Shaw (USV/ War of 1812, Creek Indian Wars) m. Jane Bagwell 1818 in Laurens Cty, SC
      B: 21 May 1794 in the Chester District, SC
      Lived in SC, GA, AL, and MS - close to Samuel Hugh Shaw and Aley Shaw Brasfield-Lynn for many years
      D: 09 August 1875 in Shaw-Fulcher Crossing, Choctaw County, MS

      6) CAPT John Henry Shaw (USV/ Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Creek Indian Wars) m. Mary Margaret Irwin 1788 in Washington Cty, TN
      B: 1763 in Wake County, NC
      D: 1827 in Shelby County, AL

      7) William Shaw (possibly Joseph given naming conventions - other brothers may include John B., Gabriel, Zachariah, Hugh, etc.)
      B: Before 1735 in VA or MD
      Lived most of their lives in Wake Cty, NC
      D: Before 1800 in SC

      8) Joseph Shaw
      B: About 1715 in PA or MD
      Lived much of his life in Augusta Cty, VA and Wake Cty, NC
      D: Before 1785 in Wake County, NC

      9) John, Joseph, James, or William Shaw (The 4 Brothers)
      B: Before 1700 in PA or Antrim, Ulster
      D: TBD

      10) John or James Shaw
      B: Before 1685 in Antrim, Ulster
      D: TBD
    • From Charles H. Shaw, III, CPL
      John Henry Shaw's father was William Shaw according to family oral history.

      This William Shaw had a brother named Joseph and their father was definitely named Joseph as well. John Baptist Shaw is likely their brother making him John Henry Shaw's uncle. In this case, Sam Hugh and Aley Shaw Brasfield-Lynn would therfore be John Henry Shaw's first cousins. They were in Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisianna with many of my family so there is some relationship not to mention all my other family lines tracing back to Wake and Durham Counties.

      It's possible that William and Joseph Shaw, sons of Joseph Shaw, could be first cousins to John Baptist Shaw and others such as Gabriel, Zachariah, Hugh, etc.. In that case, John Baptist Shaw and John Henry Shaw would be 2nd cousins. There are more than one, at least 2 and possibly 3, Joseph Shaw's in old Orange County and Wake County, NC at those times.

      Y-DNA testing could help immensley to confirm relationships seen in other records but it can't necessarily answer those type of detailed questions. Hopefully, you may have some immediate family, male relatives who could test to at least confirm the lineage.
    • 10 public member trees have John Baptist Shaw (born 1775 in Wake, NC and died 16 Sep 1815 in Wake, NC and married to Frances McKelroy on 3 Dec 1771 in Wake, NC) as the son of Joseph Shaw, born 1715 in Maryland and died 1785 in Wake, NC. No spouse is given. Joseph Shaw is listed as the son of John Shaw who was born about 1700 in Antrim, Ulster or Pennsylvania, USA.
      Source: David Boudreaux
    • December 12, 2009 7:22:55 PM
      Subject: RE: John Baptist Shaw

      Hello Jess,
      I'm afraid Ancestry is the only place I have a tree, sorry you can't view alot on it.
      The information I have is that the father of John Baptiste Shaw was Joseph Shaw. I will tell you that the information came from other researchers on Ancestry. There are several and they all seem to agree that Joseph was his mother and Ruby Derby was his mother.
      Joseph was born in 1710 in Maryland or Pennsylvania and Ruby in 1711. They married in 1733 in Maryland.
      John Baptiste Shaw had brothers, William 1735, Zachariah 1754 and Gabriel 1755.
      Sorry I can't give you more information than that but that is all I have except that John Baptiste married Frances "Frankie" McElroy and the McElroy name is my connection.
      His brother William married Mary Margaret Irwin. I do not have wives for the other brothers.
      Hope this helped you some, sorry I can't help more.
      Rita
    • The book lists the Shaws on the 1790 census. The ones for Hillsborough where John was are as follow.
      Gabell
      Guardner
      Hugh
      John B
      Samuel
      William
      Zachariah
      Then in the Portion on Military Shaws. It mentions this.
      John Baptist Shaw born abt 1750 died after 16 Sep 1815
      captain in a North Carolina Unit Married Frances McKelroy.
      Also listed in this book are Ancestral Immigrants which are those that came from mid 1600's to mid to late 1700's and what ship and whether they are indentured.
      Also listed in the book are the Early Marriage Records dating from 1662 to 1696.
      This book was put together by the American Genealogical Research Institute Arlington, Virginia.
      Carla
    • Source: Chuck Shaw Jun 21, 2010
      The following was posted on Genealogy.Com and I have included the text here for a point of reference for future study... Joseph Baker.

      Multiple records indicate John Baptist Shaw was born about 1745, William Shaw about 1747, Samuel Shaw about 1749, and Houston (Hugh) Shaw about 1750 - all in Wake Co, NC. They all fought in the Revolution and it is very likely they are brothers, but solid evidence for their parents is elusive. John Baptist Shaw was born about 1745 in Wake Co, NC and died September 16, 1815 in Wake co, NC. John B. Shaw married Frances MacKelroy or McElroy (multiple spellings) on November 21, 1771 in Wake County. Frances “Frankie” MacKelroy was born about 1751 in Wake County also. John Baptist Shaw is believed to be the son of William?, Patrick?, Angus?, James?, Thomas? Shaw (TBD - current area of emphasis). Frances MacKelroy Shaw is believed to be the daughter of Archibald Mackelroy and Catherine (Simpson?). John B. and Frances Shaw had at least 9 children although it is believed another child, Soloman?, born in 1779 died as an infant:

      · Simpson Shaw born about 1773
      · John W. or John B. Shaw born about 1775
      · Elizabeth Shaw born April 4, 1776
      · William (Wylie) M. Shaw born about 1777
      · Catherine (Caty) Shaw born about 1781
      · Polly Shaw born about 1783
      · Frances (Fanny) Shaw born about 1785
      · Sarah (Sally) Shaw born about 1787
      · Aley or Ali Shaw born about 1789

      Evidence from William Bennet's "Orange Co. Deed Book 13", p 153. provides very clear information on the location of John B Shaw’s farm when he expanded holdings on both sides of the Eno River, a tributary of the Little River, as late as 1808.

      “On 23 Feb 1806, Jane Guy, widow and relict of William Guy, deceased, Alexander Guy, John Guy, Samuel Guy, Anne Guy, Rebecca Guy, Margaret Guy all of Orange Co, and Robert Works and Mary his wife late Mary Guy of Iredell to John B. Shaw of Wake, for $3,700, 634 1/2 ac on Eno R, land which William Guy died seized and possessed...[land description mentions on Eno R, ..Great Road, Eli Lindsey's line, Taylor's corner, Thompson's corner, crossing river to East side….] Jane Guy widow relinquishes all claim to dower, signed: Joan Guy, Wm. Guy, Alexr. Guy, John Guy, Samuel Guy, Ann Guy, Rebekah Guy, Sarah Guy, Margeret Guy, R. Worke, Mary Worke, wit: Dun Cameron to John Guy, R. Worke and Mary Worke, James Lapslie, H. Shepperd, Henry Thompson Jr., acknowledged 22 March 1806 by R. Worke and Mary Worke his late wife before Jno. Hall Judge of Suprerior Court who examined Mary Worke separate foom her husband, prov May Term 1808 by Duncan Cameron as to John Guy, proved May term 1808 by Henry Thompson Jr as to William GUy & James Lapslie proved signatures of other grantors, delvd. John B. Shaw.”


      Additional documents show a close relationship between multiple Shaw, Guy, and Cole family members who originally travelled the Old Carolina Wagon Road from the York and Chester, PA areas and these brothers in NC (major TBD) including this deed. William, John B, and Hugh's families lived in close proximity on the North side of the Little River while brother and/ or cousin Samuel Shaw lived directly across the river in newly formed Johnston County. The Daniel Bagwell family and sons, including Frederick Sr, all lived nearby.


      The primary corraboration of Daniel and Fredericks line are their census data, land warrants, marriage bonds, and War Pension back from Fayette, AL to Old Pendleton District/ Anderson Co, SC to Morgan District/ Wake Co, NC with Daniel. Frederick B. Bagwell, Jr first appears as an infant on the Pendleton District rolls under Frederick Sr and Mary, after they moved there in 1799, on the 1800 and 1810 census. They never lived close to one another after leaving SC so you have to go back to prior to 1820 to connect them. The Shaws and Crawfords were also in the Old Pendleton District Rolls, later Abbeville District of Anderson Co. at the same time. Another way to follow Frederick is the Revolutionary War/ War of 1812 military rosters and subsequent pensioner's list approved by Act of Congress in 1832. The Marriage Bonds for both James Shaw and Jane Bagwell as well as Frederick B. Bagwell Jr and Peggy Crawford were issued in the same District in SC around the same time in 1818. Jane and Frederick both show up on Frederick Srs intervening census entries for Pendleton and Abbeville. James and Jane Shaw appear on the same census sheets as Frederick and Peggy Bagwell in Shelby Co, AL as well as the lottery or assignments (some additional research) recorded on the same Land Warrant page recorded after the Treaty of Fort Jackson with the Creek Indians for Shelby AL. Frederick Sr ended up in Fayette with several Crawfords while other siblings from his earlier census drew Bibb, Jefferson, etc. counties. In the 1830s following the Choctaw Annexation, at least 3 Shaws and 3 Bagwells as well as some Wileys, etc. all came from AL at the same time based on oral history and land records, they disappeared from the AL databases at this time but numerous siblings, Frederick Sr, and other relatives documented on census and other sources remained in AL. The Homestead Act for MS allowed land patent filings for settlers already in MS in 1839 and 1841 following the Treaties at Dancing Rabbit Creek. In fact - Frederick Jr, Terry, and Henry Bagwell who were on the 1830 Shelby, AL census all filed claims on Sec12-14 land in Choctaw Co on 2/27/1841 while James and Almeron Shaw filed claims on Sec 22-26 land in Choctaw Co nearby on the same date, same ledger. There are other parts of the family in nearby Oktibehha and Noxubee counties on the same ledger as well. They had probably been on the land at least 6-8 years when the treaties became effective and the filings were done in Columbus, MS.. James Shaw and Jane Bagwell Shaw were already married for some time as were Frederick Bagwell and Peggy Crawford Bagwell. The same set of events seemed to have transpired in Shelby/ Jefferson Co, AL when both families settled near one another and filed for Creek Nation land. A similar occurrence happened with their parents in Western SC around 1800 and their grandparents in the mid-1700s in NC following the Cherokee Treaties.

      Hopefully this is the same line if you can find your latter family tree and it traces to William or John.
    • Source: Charlene Herreid (ID *****2744) Date: December 10, 2010 at 04:22:57
      Jess:

      Thanks for the info! We have Belk Department Stores in Florida and it is interesting to know the connection.

      I'm sure you know there is no direct evidence that Evan Humphries (living in Surry Co. Va. at the end of the 1600s) was the father of John Humphries d. 1738 at Brunswick Co. Va., although it could be so. This Evan is very well documented in the Surry Co. records.

      I have seen the idea that Evan's father was another Evan Humphries, but I have never seen any evidence produced showing this is so. Have you some across any evidence of such a relationship? If so, I would love to know about it.

      Here is a deed you may find interesting. It is for the sale of property between William Humphries (John the Saddler's father) and John Baptist Shaw. I guess it must be John Baptist Shaw, Sr. but this shows that the Humphries and the Shaws were interacting at an early date. William Humphries had previously owned land in Orange Co., NC,which is not far away, and is, of course, the county that Amy and David Halliburton were settled in by 1767. Do you know if John B. Shaw had been in Orange Co. prior to his presence in Johnston/Wake? There is a Benjamin Shaw in some early Orange Co. records at the same time the Humphries are there. Do you know who he is?

      B-1:304: 12 July 1762 William HUMPHRIES & wife Mary, Jo Co to John Baptist SHAW, same, 10# Va money…150 A in Jo Co, beg at a Beach on Crooked cr on the SS of Nuse riv: Runing the sd line W to a cor pin: a Long the sd line E to a Intesp? At the Riv: down sd riv to the Mouth of Crooked cr: up the various Water courses of sd cr to the 1st sta on the WS wichland was to him the sd William HUMPHRIES by deed Intended from Granvile dated 1 Feb 1760…Wam. HEMPRESS Mary (her mark bar M) HUMPHRIES Wit: Richd. KEMP Senr. Richd. KEMP Junr., Mary (O) SHAW. July Ct 1762 provd by Richard KEMP Junr. Test: Robt. RAINEY, CC.
      Johnston Co., NC
      #177
      July 1762
      Haun, no date, Johnston Co. Deeds Book 1, p. 30
    • The following was posted on Genealogy.Com and I have included the text here for a point of reference for future study... Joseph Baker.



      Multiple records indicate John Baptist Shaw was born about 1745, William Shaw about 1747, Samuel Shaw about 1749, and Houston (Hugh) Shaw about 1750 - all in Wake Co, NC. They all fought in the Revolution and it is very likely they are brothers, but solid evidence for their parents is elusive. John Baptist Shaw was born about 1745 in Wake Co, NC and died September 16, 1815 in Wake co, NC. John B. Shaw married Frances MacKelroy or McElroy (multiple spellings) on November 21, 1771 in Wake County. Frances “Frankie” MacKelroy was born about 1751 in Wake County also. John Baptist Shaw is believed to be the son of William?, Patrick?, Angus?, James?, Thomas? Shaw (TBD - current area of emphasis). Frances MacKelroy Shaw is believed to be the daughter of Archibald Mackelroy and Catherine (Simpson?). John B. and Frances Shaw had at least 9 children although it is believed another child, Soloman?, born in 1779 died as an infant:

      · Simpson Shaw born about 1773
      · John W. or John B. Shaw born about 1775
      · Elizabeth Shaw born April 4, 1776
      · William (Wylie) M. Shaw born about 1777
      · Catherine (Caty) Shaw born about 1781
      · Polly Shaw born about 1783
      · Frances (Fanny) Shaw born about 1785
      · Sarah (Sally) Shaw born about 1787
      · Aley or Ali Shaw born about 1789

      Evidence from William Bennet's "Orange Co. Deed Book 13", p 153. provides very clear information on the location of John B Shaw’s farm when he expanded holdings on both sides of the Eno River, a tributary of the Little River, as late as 1808.

      “On 23 Feb 1806, Jane Guy, widow and relict of William Guy, deceased, Alexander Guy, John Guy, Samuel Guy, Anne Guy, Rebecca Guy, Margaret Guy all of Orange Co, and Robert Works and Mary his wife late Mary Guy of Iredell to John B. Shaw of Wake, for $3,700, 634 1/2 ac on Eno R, land which William Guy died seized and possessed...[land description mentions on Eno R, ..Great Road, Eli Lindsey's line, Taylor's corner, Thompson's corner, crossing river to East side….] Jane Guy widow relinquishes all claim to dower, signed: Joan Guy, Wm. Guy, Alexr. Guy, John Guy, Samuel Guy, Ann Guy, Rebekah Guy, Sarah Guy, Margeret Guy, R. Worke, Mary Worke, wit: Dun Cameron to John Guy, R. Worke and Mary Worke, James Lapslie, H. Shepperd, Henry Thompson Jr., acknowledged 22 March 1806 by R. Worke and Mary Worke his late wife before Jno. Hall Judge of Suprerior Court who examined Mary Worke separate foom her husband, prov May Term 1808 by Duncan Cameron as to John Guy, proved May term 1808 by Henry Thompson Jr as to William GUy & James Lapslie proved signatures of other grantors, delvd. John B. Shaw.”


      Additional documents show a close relationship between multiple Shaw, Guy, and Cole family members who originally travelled the Old Carolina Wagon Road from the York and Chester, PA areas and these brothers in NC (major TBD) including this deed. William, John B, and Hugh's families lived in close proximity on the North side of the Little River while brother and/ or cousin Samuel Shaw lived directly across the river in newly formed Johnston County. The Daniel Bagwell family and sons, including Frederick Sr, all lived nearby.


      The primary corraboration of Daniel and Fredericks line are their census data, land warrants, marriage bonds, and War Pension back from Fayette, AL to Old Pendleton District/ Anderson Co, SC to Morgan District/ Wake Co, NC with Daniel. Frederick B. Bagwell, Jr first appears as an infant on the Pendleton District rolls under Frederick Sr and Mary, after they moved there in 1799, on the 1800 and 1810 census. They never lived close to one another after leaving SC so you have to go back to prior to 1820 to connect them. The Shaws and Crawfords were also in the Old Pendleton District Rolls, later Abbeville District of Anderson Co. at the same time. Another way to follow Frederick is the Revolutionary War/ War of 1812 military rosters and subsequent pensioner's list approved by Act of Congress in 1832. The Marriage Bonds for both James Shaw and Jane Bagwell as well as Frederick B. Bagwell Jr and Peggy Crawford were issued in the same District in SC around the same time in 1818. Jane and Frederick both show up on Frederick Srs intervening census entries for Pendleton and Abbeville. James and Jane Shaw appear on the same census sheets as Frederick and Peggy Bagwell in Shelby Co, AL as well as the lottery or assignments (some additional research) recorded on the same Land Warrant page recorded after the Treaty of Fort Jackson with the Creek Indians for Shelby AL. Frederick Sr ended up in Fayette with several Crawfords while other siblings from his earlier census drew Bibb, Jefferson, etc. counties. In the 1830s following the Choctaw Annexation, at least 3 Shaws and 3 Bagwells as well as some Wileys, etc. all came from AL at the same time based on oral history and land records, they disappeared from the AL databases at this time but numerous siblings, Frederick Sr, and other relatives documented on census and other sources remained in AL. The Homestead Act for MS allowed land patent filings for settlers already in MS in 1839 and 1841 following the Treaties at Dancing Rabbit Creek. In fact - Frederick Jr, Terry, and Henry Bagwell who were on the 1830 Shelby, AL census all filed claims on Sec12-14 land in Choctaw Co on 2/27/1841 while James and Almeron Shaw filed claims on Sec 22-26 land in Choctaw Co nearby on the same date, same ledger. There are other parts of the family in nearby Oktibehha and Noxubee counties on the same ledger as well. They had probably been on the land at least 6-8 years when the treaties became effective and the filings were done in Columbus, MS.. James Shaw and Jane Bagwell Shaw were already married for some time as were Frederick Bagwell and Peggy Crawford Bagwell. The same set of events seemed to have transpired in Shelby/ Jefferson Co, AL when both families settled near one another and filed for Creek Nation land. A similar occurrence happened with their parents in Western SC around 1800 and their grandparents in the mid-1700s in NC following the Cherokee Treaties.

      Hopefully this is the same line if you can find your latter family tree and it traces to William or John.

      Chuck Shaw
    • The following was posted on Genealogy.Com and I have included the text here for a point of reference for future study... Joseph Baker.



      Multiple records indicate John Baptist Shaw was born about 1745, William Shaw about 1747, Samuel Shaw about 1749, and Houston (Hugh) Shaw about 1750 - all in Wake Co, NC. They all fought in the Revolution and it is very likely they are brothers, but solid evidence for their parents is elusive. John Baptist Shaw was born about 1745 in Wake Co, NC and died September 16, 1815 in Wake co, NC. John B. Shaw married Frances MacKelroy or McElroy (multiple spellings) on November 21, 1771 in Wake County. Frances “Frankie” MacKelroy was born about 1751 in Wake County also. John Baptist Shaw is believed to be the son of William?, Patrick?, Angus?, James?, Thomas? Shaw (TBD - current area of emphasis). Frances MacKelroy Shaw is believed to be the daughter of Archibald Mackelroy and Catherine (Simpson?). John B. and Frances Shaw had at least 9 children although it is believed another child, Soloman?, born in 1779 died as an infant:

      · Simpson Shaw born about 1773
      · John W. or John B. Shaw born about 1775
      · Elizabeth Shaw born April 4, 1776
      · William (Wylie) M. Shaw born about 1777
      · Catherine (Caty) Shaw born about 1781
      · Polly Shaw born about 1783
      · Frances (Fanny) Shaw born about 1785
      · Sarah (Sally) Shaw born about 1787
      · Aley or Ali Shaw born about 1789

      Evidence from William Bennet's "Orange Co. Deed Book 13", p 153. provides very clear information on the location of John B Shaw’s farm when he expanded holdings on both sides of the Eno River, a tributary of the Little River, as late as 1808.

      “On 23 Feb 1806, Jane Guy, widow and relict of William Guy, deceased, Alexander Guy, John Guy, Samuel Guy, Anne Guy, Rebecca Guy, Margaret Guy all of Orange Co, and Robert Works and Mary his wife late Mary Guy of Iredell to John B. Shaw of Wake, for $3,700, 634 1/2 ac on Eno R, land which William Guy died seized and possessed...[land description mentions on Eno R, ..Great Road, Eli Lindsey's line, Taylor's corner, Thompson's corner, crossing river to East side….] Jane Guy widow relinquishes all claim to dower, signed: Joan Guy, Wm. Guy, Alexr. Guy, John Guy, Samuel Guy, Ann Guy, Rebekah Guy, Sarah Guy, Margeret Guy, R. Worke, Mary Worke, wit: Dun Cameron to John Guy, R. Worke and Mary Worke, James Lapslie, H. Shepperd, Henry Thompson Jr., acknowledged 22 March 1806 by R. Worke and Mary Worke his late wife before Jno. Hall Judge of Suprerior Court who examined Mary Worke separate foom her husband, prov May Term 1808 by Duncan Cameron as to John Guy, proved May term 1808 by Henry Thompson Jr as to William GUy & James Lapslie proved signatures of other grantors, delvd. John B. Shaw.”


      Additional documents show a close relationship between multiple Shaw, Guy, and Cole family members who originally travelled the Old Carolina Wagon Road from the York and Chester, PA areas and these brothers in NC (major TBD) including this deed. William, John B, and Hugh's families lived in close proximity on the North side of the Little River while brother and/ or cousin Samuel Shaw lived directly across the river in newly formed Johnston County. The Daniel Bagwell family and sons, including Frederick Sr, all lived nearby.


      The primary corraboration of Daniel and Fredericks line are their census data, land warrants, marriage bonds, and War Pension back from Fayette, AL to Old Pendleton District/ Anderson Co, SC to Morgan District/ Wake Co, NC with Daniel. Frederick B. Bagwell, Jr first appears as an infant on the Pendleton District rolls under Frederick Sr and Mary, after they moved there in 1799, on the 1800 and 1810 census. They never lived close to one another after leaving SC so you have to go back to prior to 1820 to connect them. The Shaws and Crawfords were also in the Old Pendleton District Rolls, later Abbeville District of Anderson Co. at the same time. Another way to follow Frederick is the Revolutionary War/ War of 1812 military rosters and subsequent pensioner's list approved by Act of Congress in 1832. The Marriage Bonds for both James Shaw and Jane Bagwell as well as Frederick B. Bagwell Jr and Peggy Crawford were issued in the same District in SC around the same time in 1818. Jane and Frederick both show up on Frederick Srs intervening census entries for Pendleton and Abbeville. James and Jane Shaw appear on the same census sheets as Frederick and Peggy Bagwell in Shelby Co, AL as well as the lottery or assignments (some additional research) recorded on the same Land Warrant page recorded after the Treaty of Fort Jackson with the Creek Indians for Shelby AL. Frederick Sr ended up in Fayette with several Crawfords while other siblings from his earlier census drew Bibb, Jefferson, etc. counties. In the 1830s following the Choctaw Annexation, at least 3 Shaws and 3 Bagwells as well as some Wileys, etc. all came from AL at the same time based on oral history and land records, they disappeared from the AL databases at this time but numerous siblings, Frederick Sr, and other relatives documented on census and other sources remained in AL. The Homestead Act for MS allowed land patent filings for settlers already in MS in 1839 and 1841 following the Treaties at Dancing Rabbit Creek. In fact - Frederick Jr, Terry, and Henry Bagwell who were on the 1830 Shelby, AL census all filed claims on Sec12-14 land in Choctaw Co on 2/27/1841 while James and Almeron Shaw filed claims on Sec 22-26 land in Choctaw Co nearby on the same date, same ledger. There are other parts of the family in nearby Oktibehha and Noxubee counties on the same ledger as well. They had probably been on the land at least 6-8 years when the treaties became effective and the filings were done in Columbus, MS.. James Shaw and Jane Bagwell Shaw were already married for some time as were Frederick Bagwell and Peggy Crawford Bagwell. The same set of events seemed to have transpired in Shelby/ Jefferson Co, AL when both families settled near one another and filed for Creek Nation land. A similar occurrence happened with their parents in Western SC around 1800 and their grandparents in the mid-1700s in NC following the Cherokee Treaties.

      Hopefully this is the same line if you can find your latter family tree and it traces to William or John.

      Chuck Shaw

      betharnold130added this on 14 Oct 2011
      I think there may be some confusion. While John Baptist Shaw's parents have not been determined, the only brother that is certain is Zachariah Shaw, by evidence of his pension. It is possible that he had another brother, Gabriel, and also an uncle Timothy.